·ŹșĆżâapp students defend the high seas
Senior Virginia Weiskopf and PhD candidate Emily Nocito, both in environmental studies, head to the United Nations to research marine conservation
There are many roads to U. N. Headquarters in New York City. Senior in environmental studies and 2022 UROP-grant recipient Virginia Weiskopf chose one that Robert Frost might have called âless taken.âÌęÌę
âI just kind of bothered a lot of people,â says Weiskopf.
But she didnât bother just any people. She bothered the right people. People like University of Colorado Boulder environmental studies Assistant Professor Cassandra Brooks.
âI took a class with Dr. Brooks called Governing the Environment,â says Weiskopf. âI was so inspired. So I bothered her many times: âHey, could you be my mentor?â âCan I work with you?â âCan I please work with you?ââ
Weiskopfâs persistence paid off. âOK,â Weiskopf recalled Brooks saying. âWhat do you want to do?â
Weiskopf admits that, âlike any 21-year-old,â she didnât exactly know. She just knew she wanted to protect the environment. So she told Brooks, âI really like what you do, so could you just give me something to do?â
Brooks helped Weiskopf narrow her research focus and introduced her to Emily Nocito, a fifth-year PhD candidate in environmental studies.

At the top of the page: Emily Nocito (left) and Virginia Weiskopf (right) at a Greenpeace event calling for the delegations concerning the Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction treaty to come to a close (Emily Nocito).ÌęAbove:ÌęVirginia Weiskopf (left) and Emily Nocito (right) at United Nations Headquarters in New York City for the fifth Intergovernmental Conference on Marine Biodiversity of Areas Beyond National Jurisdiction (Virginia Weiskopf).Ìę
is no stranger to the United Nations. Sheâs been there many timesâso many times, in fact, that she calls it a second home. Sheâs attended conferences there, participated in the U.N.âs Major Group for Children and Youth, and gave a speech there after winning the 2015-16 Millennium Oceans Prize for founding 10 by 2020, a youth-led nonprofit dedicated to ocean education and literacy.
Visiting the United Nations
This August, Nocito and Weiskopf journeyed to U.N. Headquarters to attend the fifth Intergovernmental Conference on Marine Biodiversity of Areas Beyond National Jurisdiction, the purpose of which is to finalize a multinational agreement (Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction, or BBNJ) for protecting the high seas, those stretches of ocean that lie beyond any one countryâs borders.
Nocito and Weiskopf want to know what goes into striking such high-stakes deals. How, for example, might more regional marine conservation efforts, like those enacted by the Commission for the Conservation of Antarctic Marine Living ·ŹșĆżâapp, influence large-scale agreements like the BBNJ and vice versa?
What Nocito and Weiskopf learn at the United Nations will affect not only their current research projectsâNocitoâs dissertation and Weiskopfâs honors thesisâbut their work post-graduation as well.
âBeing at the conference,â says Weiskopf, âyou get behind the scenes of what is going on in the debates,â which âyou wouldnât see reflected in the draft and final text of the agreement.â
Nocito agrees: âYou get so much more than just reading the newspaper article. ⊠You actually get to see how the sausage is made.â
Yet unlike with sausage, seeing how these deals are made hasnât turned Weiskopfâs and Nocitoâs stomachs. Itâs done precisely the opposite.
âFor every moment that Iâm exhausted and frustrated and under-caffeinated and I just want to go to bed,â says Nocito, âthere are a 100,000 more moments of me wanting to be a part of this process. This is a historic treaty, and to say that Iâve been involved in any capacity is something that Iâm sure Iâll be telling my kids and grandkids and people on the streets. Itâll be my fun fact for life.â
âIâve always wanted to go to the U.N. and be involved with international relations and the environment,â says Weiskopf. âItâs a dream come true.â
Protecting the high seas
When asked why this work matters, Nocito and Weiskopf are wary of drifting into the deep and dizzying waters of philosophy, a subject they say lies outside their comfort zones. And yet they admit that understanding the importance of the high seas, and of protecting them, requires some imagination.
Not that the high seas arenât intrinsically valuable. They are, Weiskopf and Nocito argue. âItâs just amazing that theyâre part of our universe,â Weiskopf says. âIt would break my heart to lose all that biodiversity.â
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Iâve always wanted to go to the U.N. and be involved with international relations and the environment. ... Itâs a dream come true.
And not that the high seas serve no practical purpose. They do. âEvery other breath we take comes from phytoplankton algae,â says Nocito, referencing the microscopic organisms that inhabit our oceans.
No, itâs for reasons of place and time that we must draw upon the imagination.
For one thing, Nocito explains, most people will never visit the high seas. âItâs two hundred nautical miles out. Youâd need to be on a fishing vessel for six months, a year, two years to see it.â
And though the BBNJ will benefit us now, Nocito and Weiskopf assert that itâll prove even more critical for those yet to be born.
âThe people at the U.N., theyâre working on something bigger than themselves,â Nocito says.
Weiskopf agrees, adding: âfor future generations.â
Some may find it discouraging to devote their time and energy to places theyâll never see and people theyâll never meet, but not Nocito and Weiskopf.ÌęÌę
âThereâs something poetic about it,â says Nocito.
They may not be philosophers. But poets? Poets they may be.